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RIP Turkey, 1921 – 2017 Recep Tayyip Erdogan didn’t just win his constitutional referendum

he permanently closed a chapter of his country’s modern history.

n Jan. 20, 1921, the Turkish Grand National Assembly passed the Teşkilât-ı Esasîye Kanunu, or the Law on Fundamental Organization. It would be almost three years until Mustafa Kemal — known more commonly as Ataturk, or “Father Turk” — proclaimed the Republic of Turkey, but the legislation was a critical marker of the new order taking shape in Anatolia.

The new country called Turkey, quite unlike the Ottoman Empire, was structured along modern lines. It was to be administered by executive and legislative branches, as well as a Council of Ministers composed of elected representatives of the parliament. What had once been the authority of the sultan, who ruled alone with political and ecclesiastic legitimacy, was placed in the hands of legislators who represented the sovereignty of the people.

More than any other reform, the Law on Fundamental Organization represented a path from dynastic rule to the modern era. And it was this change that was at stake in Turkey’s referendum over the weekend. Much of the attention on Sunday’s vote was focused on the fact that it was a referendum on the power of the Turkish presidency and the polarizing politician who occupies that office, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Yet it was actually much more.

Whether they understood it or not, when Turks voted “Yes”, they were registering their opposition to the Teşkilât-ı Esasîye Kanunu and the version of modernity that Ataturk imagined and represented. Though the opposition is still disputing the final vote tallies, the Turkish public seems to have given Erdogan and the AKP license to reorganize the Turkish state and in the process raze the values on which it was built. Even if they are demoralized in their defeat, Erdogan’s project will arouse significant resistance among the various “No” camps. The predictable result will be the continuation of the purge that has been going on since even before last July’s failed coup including more arrests and the additional delegitimization of Erdogan’s parliamentary opposition. All of this will further destabilize Turkish politics.

Turkey’s Islamists have long venerated the Ottoman period. In doing so, they implicitly expressed thinly veiled contempt for the Turkish Republic. For Necmettin Erbakan, who led the movement from the late 1960s to the emergence of the Justice and Development Party (AKP) in August 2001, the republic represented cultural abnegation and repressive secularism in service of what he believed was Ataturk’s misbegotten ideas that the country could be made Western and the West would accept it. Rather, he saw Turkey’s natural place not at NATO’s headquarters in Brussels but as a leader of the Muslim world, whose partners should be Pakistan, Malaysia, Egypt, Iran, and Indonesia.

When Erbakan’s protégés — among them Erdogan and former President Abdullah Gul — broke with him and created the AKP, they jettisoned the anti-Western rhetoric of the old guard, committed themselves to advancing Turkey’s European Union candidacy, and consciously crafted an image of themselves as the Muslim analogues to Europe’s Christian Democrats. Even so, they retained traditional Islamist ideas about the role of Turkey in the Middle East and the wider Muslim world.


http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/16/rip-turkey-1921-2017/


"Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
“The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
"If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer

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  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator
    20.03 "No" voters have taken to the streets in Istanbul, protesting the result of the referendum and claiming that election fraud had led to the result. Others could be seen banging pots and pans from their windows and calling Erdogan a "thief."

    http://www.dw.com/en/turkeys-electoral-board-declares-yes-camp-wins-referendum/a-38447348
    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator
    edited April 16
    How long before the "No" voters are rounded up?, accused of being part of the "coup"
    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator

    Turkish President Erdogan hails 'historic' victory in referendum that will hand him more powers as he says he wants to reinstate the DEATH PENALTY


    Speaking in Istanbul, Erdogan (pictured) said: 'With the people, we have realised the most important reform in our history. Turkey for the first time in its history has decided with the will of the parliament and its people.' The 'Yes' campaign to give Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan expanded powers was ahead of its rival in a bitterly-contested referendum Sunday that will determine Turkey's future destiny, initial results said. The 'Yes' campaign had won 51.31 percent, the election commission said in figures quoted by state news agency Anadolu, in an initial count based on 98 percent of the ballot boxes.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4416464/Erdogan-poised-expand-powers-Turkey.html
    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • tazweisstazweiss Member, Permitted to post new threads
    Gee, who couldn't have called that one.

    If the politicians treat people this poorly when they're armed to the teeth,

    just imagine what they'll be willing to do once they've disarmed everyone.

  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator
    edited April 17

    Erdogan tells opponents 'it's too late now' after Turkey referendum win

    Turkey's president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned opponents not to "belittle" his narrow victory in a referendum that will grant him sweeping new powers.

    Speaking to reporters in Istanbul, he said results showed a winning margin of 1.3 million votes in what he described as a "historic decision".

    Striking a conciliatory tone following the bitter contest, Mr Erdogan called on foreign powers to respect the outcome - which will mean 18 constitutional changes - as he thanked the Turkish people.

    He said: "April 16 is the victory of all who said yes or no, of the whole 80 million, of the whole of Turkey of 780,000 square kilometres.

    "We would like other countries and institutions to show respect to the decision of the nation."

    "There are those who are belittling the result. They shouldn't try, it will be in vain," he said.

    "It's too late now."

    http://news.sky.com/story/turkey-referendum-exit-poll-shows-majority-back-more-powers-for-president-10839890

    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator
    edited April 17

    President Erdogan warns Turkish opposition's challenge to his referendum victory 'will be in vain' as his supporters hunt down and beat protesters


    • Pots and pans have been used before in mass protests across Turkey against President Erdogan in 2013 
    • A shocking video shows a group of pro-Erdogan protesters chase down a 'No' voter and beat them to the floor 
    • 51 per cent of Turks voted 'Yes' in the referendum, meaning Erdogan could stay in power until 2029 
    • The President told crowds in Istanbul it was a 'historic moment' and he may hold a death penalty referendum 

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned opposition parties that their attempts to challenge his referendum victory 'will be in vain'. 

    Thousands of protesters took to the street in a rally against the controversial victory, which will give President Erdogan sweeping new powers and could see him remain as president until 2029.

    It comes as shocking video from last night's demonstrations appeared to show a protester being attacked by pro-Erdogan Turks. In the clip, a person is chased down by a large group, who surround them and kick them to the ground.

    This morning, opposition parties complained of a number of irregularities in the voting, and were particularly incensed by an electoral board decision announced on Sunday afternoon to accept as valid ballots that did not bear the official stamp. 

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4416464/Erdogan-poised-expand-powers-Turkey.html



    The marches come as a German politician compared the news to the rise of Hitler in 1933. Pictured, 'No' supporters bunch together as they walk down a street in Istanbul 

    SDP member Axel Schaefer said: 'The Erdogan referendum is leading Turkey into absolutism and the 1933 German parliamentary election led Germany into the abyss.' Pictures, protesters hold a yellow banner together

     
    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator

    Turkey's democracy died today

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has declared victory in a referendum over a new constitution that will make him far more powerful, potentially for many more years to come. The result, which the opposition is calling fraudulent, promises to make Turkey less democratic, more bitterly divided and more religious than ever.

    It comes as no surprise that at the last minute, when the counting showed the "no" vote was threatening the thin lead of the pro-Erdogan "Yes" vote, electoral authorities stepped in to announce they would allow unsealed ballots to be counted, in contravention to the rules.
    Already the lead-up to the vote gave enormous advantages to the yes camp, particularly in the form of media coverage. Meanwhile, opponents faced intimidation and the risk of job loss if they publicly voiced their opinions.

    Now, with the results showing a narrow 51%-to-49% victory for Erdogan, the opposition says the vote counting, too, was marred by fraud and vows to challenge it.
    Still, it looks all but certain the President has won a historic victory that will not only transform the country he has led since 2013, but will also create a path for him to remain in office until 2029.

    Erdogan, a charismatic, authoritarian populist with an agenda steeped in Islam, has become the focal point of deep divisions in the country, and this referendum will make those divisions only more acrimonious and destabilizing.

    With barely half the country supporting his push for more power, and with the three largest cities -- Istanbul, Ankara and Izmir -- voting no, Erdogan will assume his new powers under a cloud of doubt. That sense of insecurity is likely to make Erdogan more, not less, autocratic.

    Erdogan has not been a conciliatory leader. Instead, he has ruled by stoking ideological, social and sectarian divisions. He has responded to challenges, even peaceful and democratic ones, by crushing the opposition. And he has taken advantage of every opportunity -- and every challenge -- to bolster his power.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/16/opinions/turkey-election-less-democracy-opinion-ghitis/
    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Matt_ADMIN_Matt_ADMIN_ Administrator
    Did you see in the video how even the dog was chewing on the guy's pant leg? lol
    Shows how smart animals are, and how they know which side they're on. 
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    "...Say, 'GOD is sufficient for me.' In Him the trusters shall trust." (Quran 39:38)
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator
    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Matt_ADMIN_Matt_ADMIN_ Administrator
    Lol
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    "...Say, 'GOD is sufficient for me.' In Him the trusters shall trust." (Quran 39:38)
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator
    Luxury-loving tyrant with a palace three times the bigger than the White House: GUY ADAMS reveals the opulence of Erdogan's £500million official residence

    Even before the result of this week’s referendum, Turkey’s autocratic President, Recep Tayyip Erdogan enjoyed the trappings and lifestyle of an aspiring dictator.

    Take, for example, the lavish official residence he had built on the outskirts of Ankara, the capital, at the expense of his ever generous taxpayers.

    Perched atop a hill overlooking the city and completed three years ago, the Ak Saray — White Palace — extends to an astonishing 1,100 rooms, some 250 of which are for the sole use of the moustachioed 63-year-old and his immediate family.

    Decked out in every despot’s favourite style, with marble floors, gold fittings and acres of red carpet, it’s 30 times the size of the White House and is believed to be the largest palace built, anywhere in the world, for more than 100 years.

    A reported £7 million went on those carpets and another £5 million on 400 pairs of 10 ft high double doors. Huge quantities of silk wallpaper were sourced at £2,000 a roll, while each drinking glass is said to have cost £250.

    And there are so many spas, swimming pools, bathrooms and Turkish steam rooms in Erdogan’s quarters that the heating bill alone runs to £500,000 each winter.

    And the cost of this vanity project? An estimated £500 million on construction alone.

    That’s not bad going in a country where, according to Istanbul’s Bachesir University, two out of every three children live in abject poverty and more than two million people scrape by on less than £3 a day.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4419762/A-tyrant-palace-three-times-White-House.html

    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Matt_ADMIN_Matt_ADMIN_ Administrator
    Is he familiar with what happens to people like him and his mansions once the novelty wears off amongst the people?
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    "...Say, 'GOD is sufficient for me.' In Him the trusters shall trust." (Quran 39:38)
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator
    I doubt it has even crossed his mind, days of actual elections will be a thing of the past now in Turkey
    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator
    Recep Tayyip Erdogan won his vote but lost half of Turkey

    The one-sided contest gives the president unbridled power but not a clear path

    Recep Tayyip Erdogan did not get the clear and clamorous endorsement he was expecting in Sunday’s narrow victory for constitutional changes that hand him unbridled power, greater than any ruler of Turkey since Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the father of the republic whom this neo-sultan aims to eclipse.

    https://www.ft.com/content/121dc22a-244a-11e7-a34a-538b4cb30025
    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator

    Turkey’s electoral board rejects referendum appeals

    Turkey’s High Electoral Board rejected on Wednesday appeals from the main opposition parties to annul the referendum granting President Recep Tayyip Erdogan sweeping new powers, the board said in a statement. Opposition parties including the main opposition CHP and the pro-Kurdish HDP had called on the electoral board to annul Sunday’s vote, which was narrowly won by the “Yes” camp, because unstamped ballot papers were included. “HDP, CHP and Vatan Party appeals regarding the April 16 referendum were discussed separately and as a result of evaluations, the appeals were rejected with 10 votes against and 1 vote in favor,” the electoral board said. (Reuters)


    https://www.rt.com/news/line/

    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Lynsey_ADMIN_Lynsey_ADMIN_ Administrator
    is that one person who voted against still free or alive?
    "Before you embark on a Journey of Revenge, Dig Two Graves" Confucius (504 bc)
    “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
    "If angry, count to ten. This will give you time to find a weapon." - Will Spencer
  • Matt_ADMIN_Matt_ADMIN_ Administrator
    We'll likely never know 
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    "...Say, 'GOD is sufficient for me.' In Him the trusters shall trust." (Quran 39:38)
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